Wednesday, January 23, 2008
Prog Against Pirates Player
We thought we'd start to experiment with having a player on the site here that will randomly play a song from it's list, and you can also select specific songs. We're still working on some of the configuration settings, but you'll find the player at the bottom of the page, you can select any song in the list and play it if you want to try something different.
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Cool, I'll go check it out.
Thanks!
Esteban.
Nice idea PK!!
The player itself looks great too. Am going to dig into that one. Would make a nice addition too use in my blog for those that rather not see their music (of course only those songs from which i have the permission to put up!) being downloaded from rapidshare.
On first sight i can control what's being played so if someone wants people can hear the songs the "label/artist/band" allows them to hear
Gert
ps. The song "This is" is catchy. Am going to dig more of them up here (aka i want that album. What's the full band name?)
your thoughs are totally crap. And you loose this war. Maybe you can win some battle with blogger (are you sure you'll win?)but try to stop torrent,emule or just one of p2p network. RIDICOLOUS.
i have bought for my blog (oh yes i'm the owner of one blog!)over 2500$in one year...do you think i'm getting to buy the same amount of music without my blog? RIDICOLOUS. i have read all of your post and as i told before, are totally crap.Many blog have answered to your propagandistic ideas and don't forget that people listen our(bloggers) suggest, not yours. so, if i said on my blog "please do not buy "here"" they don't buy anything. so in this recent post you show the real intent of this blog...you want here only an online record store, just tho exploit the clamour for deleting albums..and to exploit blogger surfers!!!
i read carefully your ideas and i want "joke" with your thoughs:
what is your solution?i'm ready to what everything you want in my blog (ehi, it's only a joke, in real life i don't talk with little people like you)
This means that i'm ready to post music"-for penny-".how much it cost a single song for your thoughs?1 euro?again...RIDICOLOUS. But i'm ready to do this and also ready for one proposal: The whole album, ripped to 128 kbps(or less, 112?),without artcover just for one euro (the WHOLE album).I don't think you can keep in mind this new(new?)proposal because you don't really want that people listen the music and only then,buy the album. You want only that people try and try and try and try again before find the album they liked.this is...RIDICOLOUS.and also impossible! you only want the power to decide for all the people just for your convenience.Do you know how its called this? Nazism.
Btw i surf across the onlinestore you posted few days ago...the most of this store had only new bands...how could we listen somethings from the past???you don't sell nothing because you sell crap (keep it in mind).
bye
I was going to email you about the player once I understood it better Gert, I think it would be a nice modification for what you are doing.
"This Is" is from the band "Lizette &" and the album is of the same name. It is on our other label www.therecordlabel.net and should be available from Amazon in the US at least, our distribution on this isn't as full.
If the music on your player is representative of the music you are trying to protect, you can end your campaign now. This music is derivative and to be honest, goofy. No one will try to steal this stuff. If your label is suffering poor sales, it is plainly because of it's output.
Of course you won't post this... I've posted several other messages of similar tone and you haven't posted one. I suppose you can't bear dissent from your point of view that rings of truth,
This is a typical post from someone who wants to lower the level of conversation and distract from the issues. The 3 songs I put here are exceptionally unique and fresh, and are only a small sample of the over 100 release that I have personally. The reason I'm on this campaign is because you people ARE stealing this music, otherwise why wouldn't know anything about it. I'd like to see you post info to songs that you think that any of these are derivitive of.
We aren't letting posts through that aren't adding anything to the conversation with rare exceptions. You pro-piracy people are really making our case almost better than we are with your unhinged comments.
uuhhh...what a strong argumentation!
how could we answer???!!!? don't you think that maybe your taste is not the same of people in outerspace? maybe people don't like shitty music...the crap not become awfull only because you said so...
and again, we are stealing music?sure?
so, you pays royaltis at artist of over 40 years ago? you pay royalties to Sir lord Baltimore, Granicus, RagYriggen, Stained Glass, Banchee...?
Who is a thief?Often the same artis you "defend" wrote in blogs words of appreciation and more often they tells that labels don't want pay a dime fou UNAUTHORIZED reissues. Who is a thief?
As is written in a previous post "you only want the power to decide for all the people just for your convenience.Do you know how its called this? Nazism."
beautiful truth.
p.s. i don't buy anything at online records written below.
This is probably the last post by you that I'll let through because you just don't make any sense.
* Whether you like those 3 songs or not doesn't really matter, because it is all getting pirated by someone.
* I pay royalties to everyone that I sell, I don't have material from 40 years ago or from the people you said.
* I'm only dealing with my won material. You need a serious history lesson, you obviously know nothing about Nazism.
* You don't buy anything anyway, so your statement is pointless.
error!
i bought a lots of album! so please salute yuor earnings!(btw maybe not yours, you sell disgustin' stuff for my taste and for most blog's readers)
What??!?! someone pirated this crap?!?
So if you don't have any stuff from 40y.a. why you and people like you are deleting this type of albums from blog?
NO my friend you should open history books: you want only the power to decide for all for your covenience. When you burnin' books that talks about "sharing"?
Your ideas are pointless. And i'm very happy because you are destined to fail and loose.(and please belive me is more simple if you produce this music...)
"error!
i bought a lots of album! so please salute yuor earnings!(btw maybe not yours, you sell disgustin' stuff for my taste and for most blog's readers)
What??!?! someone pirated this crap?!?
So if you don't have any stuff from 40y.a. why you and people like you are deleting this type of albums from blog?
NO my friend you should open history books: you want only the power to decide for all for your covenience. When you burnin' books that talks about "sharing"?
Your ideas are pointless. And i'm very happy because you are destined to fail and loose.(and please belive me is more simple if you produce this music...)"
Hmm how to digest this one...
- Discussion about piracy
adhomin attack on the songs that can be heard on this blog
Connection....guess i need to start smoking what he is using....
Gert
Hi Gert!
As Shawn already said the bands name is "Lizette &". They are fronted by Lizette von Panajott, who also is the vocalist on the Spektrum album that is on it's way to you.
"so, you pays royaltis at artist of over 40 years ago? you pay royalties to Sir lord Baltimore, Granicus, RagYriggen, Stained Glass, Banchee...?"
Mailorders do not pay royalties, record labels does. And yes, RAG I RYGGEN got their royalties !
"And yes, RAG I RYGGEN got their royalties !"
sure? can you show any proof?
and again, is the same old story...you don't want protect music, you want only increase your earnings...
Oh please, proove that he isn't paying them. There are no complaints anywhere, that is just baseless mud slinging. Prove you pay for music after you download it illegally.
violent silence "subzero" DEF ADD TO MY MINDAWN LIST
btw - i am seriously offended when folks bandy about the words "nazism" or "facism" when all the artists are trying to do is enforce their copyrights. how does this compare mass extermination of millions of innocents is repugnant. yes, words matter and you'll never score any points with such a ludicrous analogy.
Just in case you forgot to post this the other day: (perhaps it's too inflammatory for your gentle sensibilities. I guess it takes the conversation in a direction you don't like)
I am not pro-piracy as you state. That is the problem with zealots. They often display this "with us or against us" attitude. The fact is that nobody knows the true effect of piracy yet. It seems logical to say that it is bad for sales. That hasn't been conclusively proven. We shall see.
I have been in the music industry for many years now. I have been in bands. I own a record store, co-own a 3000 sq. foot recording facility. I was an A&R rep for a major label. Members of my family are also in the music industry and have been for 20+ years. There are six gold and 2 platinum records on my walls. There are others from the 80's that are too cheezy to hang up.
I am not trying to lower the level of the conversation as you imply. I'm trying to give you my opinion. It is a considered opinion that comes from many years of experience. I'm merely being honest with you. You can't seem to handle that.
As for sources of derivation, I immediately hear Alanis Morrisette and NiN in the Lizette song. Blatantly in the case of Morissete style vocals.
As far as the proggy stuff goes, lets remember that the style itself has been around in earnest since about 1970. None of the bands in that style seem to be doing anything of note. They seem to lean toward the commercial side of progressive rock in their writing and production, but unfortunately lack the depth of a Rush or even Dream Theater type of band.
So much of this music reminds me of the endless piles of demos I've waded through. Overly earnest and unfocused. Something a major would never sign. And believe me when I say if any of these ands were ever picked up, they would be forced to change their names.
These bands can obviously play. That's not the point. The music just isn't good enough to support the kind of sales you seem to expect and seem to believe would suddenly appear if all of the blogs and p2p nets disappeared.
You are going about this the wrong way. You need to focus on your bands and their music. There's no need to protect the music of bands that don't even scan. These guys aren't going to make a living playing this kind of music. I know people in signed bands with videos in heavy rotation who aren't making as much as math teachers annually.
I have sat in on a couple national conference calls for one of the major music groups in the last year or so. Music "piracy" hasn't come up. The labels care about it obviously, but they are more worried about the millions of kids downloading single songs from limewire than anything else. It just isn't an AOR world anymore....
"There are no complaints anywhere"...maybe because no one knows where are members of R.I.R.(or similar artis who played their stuff over 30 Years ago)? oh if you know where i can found it please write their url so i can ask some autograph on my cd BOUGHT (as many others)few months ago...do you want see my invoice?
Mister Niles,
You are talking about your personal taste and your personal ideas of what is good and/or not good music.
This has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with artists rights to decide about their work.
You may think of yourself as an expert but I'm sure there are people out there with different opinions. Like, for instance, fans and reviewers.
Kerlinze,
Why don't you contact the label? I'm sure they have their logo and URL on the CD cover
Hans - The point is not if the music in question is good or bad. It was a question of wether or not the music is "exceptionally unique and fresh" as pirate killer seems to believe.
Of course it has nothing to do with artists rights. You didn't read my post.
I don't think I'm an expert, but I do have an idea of what major labels are interested in. This music is not that music. And when the discussion turns to the RIAA and the "Music Industry" such bands as these aren't really a part of the conversation. The truth is, they aren't taken in to account.
Lets do a little test: Pirate Killer, what are the soundscan numbers for the top act you represent?
of course there are but soundscan doesn't register all sales, only sales through retail outlets in the US, our sales are at least 5 times what they register, and it doesn't really matter, you picked one song out of several dozen to say it sounded like another artist to some degree, but what does that have to do with anything, especially pirating? I've found that album pirated in a lot of places, in addition to our whole catalog, so despite the protestations of the pirates that they think everything here sucks, they are still pirating it, if they weren't, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Mister Niles
Does it really matters if the artist is called Britney Spears or IQ? It should matter at all.
The basic argument still stands: Downloading hurts the industry and it's illigal to download.
The biggest difference is that small target bands are being hurt far more then the big-names.
Also when reading your posts i get the feeling that it's the small labels/artists fault they are being hurt since they refuse to make more mainstream music. Should they all write the same sort of music as the big sellers who walk around the top 10's on hitlists?
Gert
yes there is...is record heaven (this time i am lucky, on info for other bands)
now i'll contact the label...more on the way...
maybe, but all the labels they claim to be working with are backing away http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,23121891-1702,00.html so I'm not sure.
""And yes, RAG I RYGGEN got their royalties !"
sure? can you show any proof?
and again, is the same old story...you don't want protect music, you want only increase your earnings..."
Let me know you adress, and I will gladly send you the proof ! How do you think we got this long & good history in the booklet ?? We co-operated with the band, and made a long interview with the band. Where did we find the bonus tracks ?? From the band of course.
We will soon release a RAVJUNK discography, and even here, the band got paid, and no problem to prove that either.
All the best, Johnny
cant that player be turned off by default?
another idea... maybe you can put music in there which is not made in a commercial pointofview if you are curious
yes it can, but we don't want to.
Totally don't understand your next point though. Our members are free to add and remove tracks as they see fit and based on the number of people that hang out here listening, they seem to like it.
what dont you understand?
I dont understand.. can I add my own tracks?
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